There wasn't an audition, actually. [...] When [Phil Collins] called, he was apparently a pretty big fan of (Zappa's) Roxy and Elsewhere, and he was specifically looking for a drummer who could play with another drummer. He wasn't totally willing to just give up the drum chair, so he was hoping to find someone who would be comfortable playing in a two-drummer situation. There was one song (on that album) with a specific fill that a lot of drummers were into at that time. In fact on the first day of rehearsal, the first thing he said is, "Ok, how do you play the fill?" and I knew exactly what he was talking about (laughs). It's two distinctive drums parts that sound pretty amazing. Basically, he said that he had heard the Roxy and Elsewhere album, and he talked with the other guys in the group and had played for them various tracks that I had recorded. I don't necessarily know which ones. And, if I am not mistaken, he had gone to the London Weather Report concert, which happened to be the last gig I did with them. He said that he had already done all of that so, since they were all in favor of it, if I wanted the gig it was mine. That's pretty much how it went.
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